April 15th, 2004


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04:13 pm - 1KWFFH: on the right to engage in extracurricular sporting activity.

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1KWFFH: on the right to engage in extracurricular sporting activity. - graffiti.maverick

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[User Picture]From: marmal8 Date: April 15th, 2004 - 03:06 pm (Link)
One student at my school, PD, would get an A++ if "hall" were a subject. When I had him in my class his main activities were: using Sharpies to write on the desk, wearing his hood, cracking gum, talking loudly about nothing I understood, and walking out the back door. Now, yes, he is repeating the seventh grade this year, but the wonder is that he reached the seventh grade at all. I see him more often in my classroom now that he is not enrolled in my course.
[User Picture]From: chrismaverick Date: April 15th, 2004 - 03:15 pm (Link)
ah... but he has been "slipping through the cracks" as opposed to "being passed as a matter of policy" right? Of course at what point does the difference become entirely semantic?
[User Picture]From: marmal8 Date: April 15th, 2004 - 03:23 pm (Link)
There is an annual standardized, usually exclusively multiple-choice exam the kids must pass to go on to the next grade. Even if they don't do a damn bit of work all year, if they pass the test, they go to the next grade. If they fail the test, they are sent to summer school. At the end of summer school, they are to take the test again. However, often a student is passed to the next grade even if they fail the end of summer administration of the test, so long as they faithfully attended summer school, regardless of whether they actually did anything academic during summer school.

Maybe it's policy, maybe it really is decided on a case-by-case basis...but the effect is that of "slipping through the cracks."

But back to your original point...at least we are still allowed to give failing grades, thereby notifying students that they are not so good at academics.
[User Picture]From: chrismaverick Date: April 15th, 2004 - 03:43 pm (Link)
fascinating... so if I get all As and fail the test I am held back, but if I fail everything and pass the test I graduate. In other words, grades are meaningless. I actually do see some great logic there, but I also see the potential for, I dunno, a billion very obvious problems.

Yeah, at least can still notify the student that you think they suck academically (lets cut through bullshit semantics, that's what giving a kid a failing grade is... its the teacher telling the student, "look kid, I don't think you're so much with the smarts in this area"), but if the end result is that the kid moves on anyway, then its no better than the coach being able to say "look kid, you can't catch, you can't throw, you can't tackle, you can't run, you can't block, but since I have to play you anyway, why don't you go out there and line up at fullback"

Again, I reiterate... when I am ruler, all these problems will go away...
[User Picture]From: marmal8 Date: April 15th, 2004 - 06:01 pm (Link)
"look kid, I don't think you're so much with the smarts in this area"

I do try to make passing vs. failing more about "did you do the work" than "did you do it well," but I'm confused. When exactly did you become Jewish?
[User Picture]From: chrismaverick Date: April 15th, 2004 - 07:22 pm (Link)
actually, I'm a chinaman.
[User Picture]From: marmal8 Date: April 15th, 2004 - 07:55 pm (Link)
I was aware of your proud Asian heritage. Hence, my confusion.
[User Picture]From: chrismaverick Date: April 15th, 2004 - 09:15 pm (Link)
hmmm... perhaps I am an Afro-Asiatic Jew....
 

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