October 18th, 2004

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05:58 pm - on makeovers for girls (boobies boobies boobies)...
Went home sick today. Being sick sucks. Anyway, didn't feel like doing nothing while I was at home, so I figured I might as well post pics from this weekend.

papertygre and georgejas both expressed the desire to utilize my shopping expertise and get new clothes. Whee, its just like playing with life-sized Barbie dolls. This is what we got. Here's what they looked like before:
George and Ratha (pre makeover)

And here are the after pics:

Each girl basically got 3 outfits that I tried to fit into the scheme of their specific needs.

George needed to get clothing for work. This was a very tricky constraint. She wanted to be able to be kinda stylish, and display some attitude, but we needed to work within the constraints of things she could wear to work. The first outfit I am kind of torn on. I really like the top. Or tops I should say. What she has here is a black stretch camisole with built in bra cups(she also has a white one, not pictured) that she's wearing under a sheer lace blouse with matching lace tie. A word about the camisole. the built in bra padding is actually key here. At the risk of sounding like a sexual harassment case in the making, having good looking boobs is actually pretty important in a business setting. Even if you're not trying to appear sexy, having your chest well supported is going to cause a look of better confidence. Also, not having a good bra is going to give a very subtle aura of unprofessionality, The padding in this camisole is going to give her support like a bra would, without leaving bra straps that might come out from under the camisole top, which in the business world would seem sloppy. What I'm not as happy with are the slacks she's wearing them with. I wish we could have found a nice, sophisticated but comfortable ankle length skirt to go with it. Unfortunately, she doesn't really like to wear skirts. I also wish we had gone shoe shopping.

Here we actually managed to get her into a skirt, but I'm unsure of whether or not she'd be able to wear it to work. Its an extremely casual, soft, stretch corduroy skirt with a tie belt. Surprisingly, she seemed to like it a lot. I just wish I could have found a top that I thought really worked with it. there's not necessarily anything wrong with this one. In fact I like the fit of it. But it would have been much better if we could have paired it with something that matched its casualness. Again, I wish we had gone shoe shopping. My recommendation here would be a pair knee high brown leather boots.

Easily my favorite look that we got for George. Here we have the same stretch camisole from before, and the same slacks, paired with a worn sued sport blazer. I love this look, and I think it suits her extremely well. It looks like casual and comfortable but still professional, especially for a programmer. Given her basic personality, I think tomboy style clothing works well for George. Since you can't wear overalls and baseball caps to work at a bank, I think this is a good next step match. Its has the earthy I'm as tough as one of the boys look to it, but stays feminized because of form fitting spandex top as well. Speaking of the tomboy look. I kind of wish we were shopping for play clothes as well as work clothes. I totally have a bunch of awesome ideas for how to put together the super-hot tomboy look. Oh well. I guess that's for another makeover.

More mixing and matching to create variations on the themes that were already built. This time we're using the same black dress shirt from before, but with the casual slacks. This is a pretty standard no frills look, but it works for her if for not other reason than the fact that she's so comfortable looking in it. This is the kind of thing you can wear to work on a no meeting day and just not stand out., Sit at your desk and work. Returning to the breast talk from the first picture, in all the pics with the fitted shirt, George is wearing a Body by Victoria shaping demi-bra from Victoria's Secret. I've recommended this bra to other people (including beststephi) as I really like the look of it. VS reps have even told me that it is their best selling bra. It does a great job of shaping the breasts and its material is specifically made to not create wrinkles or lines in clothing its worn under (that's actually the purpose of the entire Body by Victoria collection). I'm also told that its extremely comfortable.

Ratha's needs were a little different. She works as a contractor from home, but is also going back to grad school and so the environment can be a lot more relaxed and fun. Frankly, she can look younger and sexier than George without being out of place. Ratha seems to not care for the tight form fitting low rise jeans that are popular at the moment, but I still wanted her to have a casual but sexy denim look. She already had the worn/faded jeans, so we added a nighty inspired slip top. Its not meant to be underwear. Really it isn't. To complete the look she also has a brand new Angel's collection uplifting demi-bra from Victoria's Secret. I had originally recommended the Body shaping demi-bra but she liked the flashiness of this one better. I actually think that's a good choice, especially for an outfit like this, because anytime the bra shows, it makes it seem like its part of the outfit. Where the Body collection is intended to make the world think that you don't need a bra, the Angel's collection is intended to let the world know that you have a sexy one.

Like George, Ratha also got a sheer lace shirt. Hers is a little less transparent though and is white. We matched this with some semi-baggy black cargo pants. As you can see, she also has a black camisole top. More on that in the next paragraph, but what I really wanted to point out here is the manner in which the look comes together. What we have here is a style carefully crafted to make it appear as though she doesn't care about style at all. The hair is tied back. The pants are uneven and a little chaotic (the pants have draw strings near the ankles which create a wonderful unkempt look. Not only is the camisole dark enough that it shows through the shirt, in a manner in which boys might not realize its intentional (ooh, I can see her underwear!), but its tight and small enough that it looks like it doesn't quite fit. The whole outfit says, I just got up this morning and threw the stuff that was lying next to the bed on, and yet I look this damn good.

This is a variation on the last outfit that I really like. In fact, the variation was amazing simple. She unbuttoned the blouse. What you end up with is an updated version of thew way Ratha has tended to dress all along. Instead of just jeans, she has the cargo pants that have a bit more style to them. The camisole is just a little sexier than the babydoll t-shirts she might normally wear. To make it a little more fun than just a plain flat black, it has a raised velvety textured design to it. And the blouse is still there for added modesty. If I'd add anything, it would maybe be makeup (over heavy mascara or something) and maybe a studded bracelet for that old school hard core biker look (especially if she took off the white shirt). About the black cami. Unlike George's she doesn't have the built in bra cups. She could have gotten a tanktop or wifebeater and just worn a regular bra under it (and not cared about showing straps since her environment is more casual), but this top is tight enough spandex to be supportive and since she is going more casual, she doesn't need to worry as much about the extra lift here.

The final outfit was just really fun. Ratha had looked at several plaid pleated miniskirts and didn't quite like any of them. This denim one seems to suit her well though. Its actually not quite trendy, which I like. Its almost played out since its sort of reminiscent of the kind of stuff Xtina wore a year or two ago, but since she's using it differently its like she's saying "I just don't care." I love the matching of the brown tights with the brown babydoll. Its also kind of a retro 80s Madonna thing, only less pink. Here she has the uplifting bra on again, which really works because different than the "I'm sexy because I just don't care" look of the previous outifts, this one screams "look at me, I'm sexy. Look dammit! LOOK!" She's already got the short skirt to show off the legs, since she's not going with something over the top like a bustier for the the top (a good choice, as that would be too much) the bra adds a little something that tells the boys. "Hey look here! Don't I have nice breasts!" if only to have them stare long enough to yell at them for being pigs and make them look away. Only one change I would make here would be to wear full combat boots instead of the shoes she has on (which I liked a lot for both of her other two outfits). Or maybe even cowboy boots. Something that just totally doesn't fit, to make the look a little more quirky. My first instinct was actually to go with Chucks or something, but that's almost too commonplace these days.

There you go... opinions? Comments? Love letters to the ladies? Death threats to me?

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From: (Anonymous) Date: October 18th, 2004 - 03:06 pm (Link)
[User Picture]From: chrismaverick Date: October 18th, 2004 - 08:07 pm (Link)
1) Yeah, but as she pointed out later, she does have other shoes, and hey, maybe we'll go out and pick up some more some other day.

2) Yeah, I actually really like how that turned out. Since we didn't actually try it with the tighter jeans I don't know how it would have looked, but I actually like how it works out. Oh, and for the record, it actually is meant to be a shirt, not just a dress, so though she could probably get away with wearing it that way, I think I like it much better with pants.
[User Picture]From: jazzyjess Date: October 18th, 2004 - 03:24 pm (Link)
haha cool stuff. you like making people over huh? =P
[User Picture]From: chrismaverick Date: October 18th, 2004 - 08:08 pm (Link)
yep. Very much so. Like having life size barbies.
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That's my big brother - always the Victoria's Secret expert. ;)
[User Picture]From: chrismaverick Date: October 18th, 2004 - 08:09 pm (Link)
yep. Well, someone has to be, right? Hmmm... maybe I can get a job judging fit. :-)
[User Picture]From: ouchfest Date: October 18th, 2004 - 05:01 pm (Link)
I prefer the "before" picture. Sexy!
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The "before" picture is quite hot, isn't it?
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[User Picture]From: georgejas Date: October 18th, 2004 - 06:18 pm (Link)
hee hee. i wasn't posing very well, and hair was completely scruffy. i totally forgot my black boots for this escapade, which is what i intend to wear with these outfits.

mav, we do need to go back for tights for under the skirt and boots.

the corduroy pants-with-no-legs was really comfy... wish we could have found a full-length one.

note to viewers, mav was just like 'snap' 'snap' 'snap' since we had to go watch the football game. yay, steelers.

i like ratha look #2 and #4 best... those boots are SO stompy.

lots o' fun.
[User Picture]From: chrismaverick Date: October 18th, 2004 - 08:27 pm (Link)
hey, any time you want to go back just let me know. There's no football game next week.
[User Picture]From: marsinthestars Date: October 18th, 2004 - 06:45 pm (Link)
I love your impression of what the clothes are "saying".

Every so often I wish I lived closer to where you are. heh.

Then I remember, you are in Pittsburg.
[User Picture]From: chrismaverick Date: October 18th, 2004 - 08:28 pm (Link)
the analysis or the parts where I actually had words that the clothes were saying?

Hey, Pittsburgh isn't all that bad. Its even fun sometimes. And best of all, I am here!
[User Picture]From: papertygre Date: October 19th, 2004 - 02:51 pm (Link)
Thanks for the pictures and the post-results narration. I learned a lot and had fun too.

George's lacy top was, I think, my favorite of her outfits, but they all look very good. I'm not sure how I feel about the teal camisole on me - maybe it's too long, or maybe it needs to go with tighter, less-long jeans, but I definitely think the necklace is too much. I'll play with it and see what happens.

[User Picture]From: chrismaverick Date: October 19th, 2004 - 03:44 pm (Link)
well, its intended to go with tighter jeans, but I actually like the look with the loose jeans. It seems more carefree. Kind of casually sexy. It sort of pushes the sk8r grrl look I was talking about when you first mentioned wanting to go shopping. If the stereotypical hottie sk8r girl outfit is baggy cargo pants hanging off the hips, visible thong straps rising above the hips, and 3 sizes too small babydoll tshirt or wifebeater tanktop, then this is kind of the sk8r grrl who needed to dress up a little bit to go on a date or to a party. She certainly wasn't going to go through the effort to wear a real dress!


the next steps up would be the dress that Avril has on the inside of her album cover, but that would be for special occasions. (and in your case, probably way too much -- its just too rock star)

(by the way, the stereotypical sk8r grrl look that I just described would be fine for you as well. As you said, feel free to experiment)
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[User Picture]From: papertygre Date: October 19th, 2004 - 02:52 pm (Link)
Oh yeah, and the skirt is corduroy, not denim, which is another reason it appealed to me (unusual material).
[User Picture]From: chrismaverick Date: October 19th, 2004 - 03:45 pm (Link)
yeah, I remember now... In any case, it works for you.
[User Picture]From: beststephi Date: October 20th, 2004 - 05:23 pm (Link)
I think Ratha and George look very cute in the before pics. As for the afters, I like the top in George pic #1 but keep imagining it with a long skirt. I like long skirts. I love the corderoy skirt, too, even if it's not long :). And I love the jacket in George pic #3, very form-fitting and feminine. Not sure I like it with the camisole, though, may have to do with too many sharp angles with the v-neck. I'd pair it with something like a scoop neck shirt instead to soften the look. I like the last George pic outfit, and she looks so happy and comfy in it. Very good work outfit.

I like the Ratha #1, beautiful color and pretty and shiny, but my first thought was taking a pair of scissors to the top and cutting the top to just below the beltline. I love the last look, wouldn't change a thing. Pic #2 brings back memories of the 80's, but opening the shirt helps bring it into the present. I love the pants. I think they'd look great with the brown t-shirt, too. And very cool boots (jealous...).

[User Picture]From: chrismaverick Date: October 20th, 2004 - 05:30 pm (Link)
what is with all of you people and wanting to cut off the camisole. I think the long camisole is awesome.

As I've said elsewhere I do agree on the long skirt comment. Hopefully George is still reading this thread and the brainwashing will sink in.

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