June 6th, 2005

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[User Picture]From: suicideking Date: June 6th, 2005 - 08:20 am (Link)
I can't say that I disagre with them. They relued that the way the law is written, medical marijuana is illegal. To quote the article:

"Writing for the majority, Justice John Paul Stevens said Congress can change the law to allow medical use of the drug."

The law says it's illegal. Congress can always change the law.
[User Picture]From: chrismaverick Date: June 6th, 2005 - 08:32 am (Link)
But congress won't. See, I prefer to look at it the other way. The Supreme Courts specific job is to tell congress when a law is stupid. Ok, technically, its their job to say when a law is unconstitutional. Which they should have done, as it does block states rights to determine their own healthcare policies. But in any case. They're being pussies. Really, the SC is frequently like that.

Also, I wasn't so much just blaming the Supreme Court. Sorry if it came off like that. I was blaming the entire government. This includes Congress as well.

Next election, I am voting for Clinton for president. George Clinton. A Bootsy Collins for veep.
From: wooble Date: June 6th, 2005 - 10:24 am (Link)
[User Picture]From: chrismaverick Date: June 6th, 2005 - 11:24 am (Link)
The Constitution says that they can't make such a law.

Exactly, its not even vague about it. And it also says when congress tries to make such a law, the court is supposed to slap them down. That was my point.

Also barring who's job it is, Congress or Court, common sense just dictates that a ban on medical marijuana is just all kinds of stupid besides.
[User Picture]From: suicideking Date: June 6th, 2005 - 01:20 pm (Link)
I disagree with you. As do 6 Supreme court justices.

"Congress' power to regulate purely activities that are part of an economic 'class of activities' that have a substantial effect on interstate commerce is firmly established," wrote Justice John Paul Stevens for the majority. - Taken from CNN.com

The problem is that the way things are done now, you can't guarentee that the pot won't be coming from a "disreputable" source, i.e. other coutries or from people that sell other illegal substances. There are a myriad of issues here that need to be dealt with on a federal level.

I am not saying that I agree with the idea that medical marijuana is wrong. But I agree with the interpretation of the law that exists.

And if you are so big on states rights, are you upset over the abolition of slavery?
From: wooble Date: June 6th, 2005 - 01:27 pm (Link)
[User Picture]From: suicideking Date: June 6th, 2005 - 01:53 pm (Link)
Dude, you are being a big sissy about this.

The way the law is written, it is legal because it deals with commerce AND thus it superceedes state's rights.

Like drug laws do any good here anyway.
From: wooble Date: June 6th, 2005 - 03:30 pm (Link)
[User Picture]From: suicideking Date: June 6th, 2005 - 05:08 pm (Link)
Can you guarentee that it will be grown at home? Are you sure that that will happen. Can a state make sure that that person isn't buying it from someone who brings it in from another country?

And my statements have not been facist nor apologgistic. I would invest in a dictionary, friend.
[User Picture]From: chrismaverick Date: June 6th, 2005 - 05:14 pm (Link)
I'll jump in on this one. The problem with that lithmus test there is that you can't guarantee that of anything. I can make koolaid in my home as well, but you can't guarantee that's where I'm making it, so by that logic congress can legislate anything they feel the need to just lend a trivial "interstate commerce" rubber stamp to. Which was wooble's point. Now as to whether they should be able to do that or not, is another matter. But that's the result of it.

now place nice, children.

Oh who am I kidding, rip each other's goddamn throats out.

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