November 17th, 2005


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02:43 pm - on boobies and books for girls...

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[User Picture]From: katieboyd Date: November 18th, 2005 - 02:54 am (Link)
Much like the story Push mentioned above, they're mostly about young innocent girls going through horrible shit. There's a set pattern. They're always 5 book series. Starts with an older grandmother-figure abusing them. Moves into running away, much rape, and usually unforseen incest (some lover turned out to be the half-brother) or just plain incest rape, can't be with the one good person in the story, or maybe he dies, more death and rape and abuse, etc. etc. The last book usually goes back to the life of the grandmother-figure and how she was tortured and abused and so how she got to be so mean. (there is also usually a vilification of the rich and glorification of the poor. The innocent girl is usually poor, while the abusive family members or society is rich.)

They're really really horrific books. I have no idea why they are so popular amongst young girls, even having been one of the young girls reading them. I don't get it. Why do we want to read about bad things happening to people like us. Is it a "at least my life isn't that bad" sort of thing, or a craving for intense drama, or what?
On another thought, I've often wondered if this same craving for intense drama might lead us to engage in behaviors that make much bigger deals out of small events in our real lives, creating Drama(tm), and what causes this.
[User Picture]From: chrismaverick Date: November 18th, 2005 - 03:06 am (Link)
I think that is absolutely what it is. People like seeing other people in pain because it makes them feel better. That's often cited as part of the appeal behind soap operas and the julia roberts movies I was mentioning earlier. Particularly with women. They can overcome their own displeasure with their own life by saying "at least i don't have the consumption" and they can overcome their own boredom by dreaming that it's actually them with Fabio between their loins. I find it odd that people can identify with the good and disassociate from the bad like that. But hey... booze, sex, prayer, whatever gets you through the night.
[User Picture]From: katieboyd Date: November 18th, 2005 - 04:03 am (Link)

another thought

Do you find it interesting that, while they seem to be really censoring material designed for young boys (as you mention in your other post that they refused to make Norman Osborne into an actual rapist) they fill material for young girls with horrible violence and rape?
what's up with that?
[User Picture]From: chrismaverick Date: November 18th, 2005 - 05:18 am (Link)

Re: another thought

well, it all depends. Marvel comics is doing the censoring, but i don't think its because they want to protect the young boys. I think they were being protective of the Norman Osborne character. They were careful to say "he's not a rapist" because they didn't want to take the chance of making him unredeemable in the future. I think they figured that if he were a rapist they'd have to explain why Peter doesn't just beat him to death the next time he sees him. And then they'd have to, you know, write an actual story and stuff.
[User Picture]From: max1975 Date: November 18th, 2005 - 04:53 am (Link)
with Fabio between their loins.

please..."twixt their nethers"
[User Picture]From: chrismaverick Date: November 18th, 2005 - 05:14 am (Link)
well, see it all depends on the genre. In a period piece from the victorian age you're totally right. But I go for the more modern stable boy and estate heiress stuff myself.
[User Picture]From: cuddlyd00m Date: November 18th, 2005 - 11:49 am (Link)
Ah, the guilty pleasure of Schadenfreüde. I've gotten around this problem myself by not feeling guilty about enjoying others' pain. I accept that I am doing so, and move on - often to how I can help them.

Except in the case of the current French riots. Those confuse me. I am filled with Schadenfreüde over the troubles of the French gov't, but very worried about What They Mean(tm). Therefore, I am not fully able to Get Over It(tm pending).
[User Picture]From: chrismaverick Date: November 18th, 2005 - 12:51 pm (Link)
hmmm... really just the French riots? It just seems like an oddly specific case. Not rioting in general. Not the LA riots. Just the ones currently happening in France.
From: (Anonymous) Date: November 19th, 2005 - 03:26 pm (Link)
The French riots are a very specific case. Honestly, though, I think that Franzischerschadenfreüde should be a standard German word - enjoyment of the pain of Frenchmen.

In general, I'm very much against rioting. I feel that the French are getting what's coming to them, after years and years of economic policy that could lead to no other outcome. I've been saying that something of this sort has been inevitable for years.
[User Picture]From: cuddlyd00m Date: November 19th, 2005 - 03:39 pm (Link)
Sorry - that anonymous poster was me. I forgot I wasn't using my own computer. Hard to believe I could forget - this keyboard is bizarre. The "y" and "z" are reversed, I keep hitting "ä" instead of "'", and I still can't find the damn "at" symbol...
 

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