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on schadenfreude and sex... - graffiti.maverick

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[User Picture]From: inmostlight Date: January 22nd, 2006 - 05:53 pm (Link)
Ya know, while male-oriented revenge flicks are more common, I realized that they do make schaudenfraude movies for women. Think of all those Ashley Judd films, or Lifetime staples such as The Burning Bed where the woman takes revenge on the abusive spouse or sexually harassing boss or molesting stepfather. I mean, I like watching movies where a Mel Gibson-type gets revenge on the people who killed his woman and kicked his dog and left him for dead, but you couldn't pay me to watch any of those "chick flicks".

(I'm not counting male-targeted revenge movies that happen to feature women. Kill Bill, for example, doesn't fall into the same genre I was describing above.)
[User Picture]From: chrismaverick Date: January 22nd, 2006 - 06:26 pm (Link)
see... that's interesting... The Ashley Judd movies, you have a point, but I think that they (at least the ones I've seen) are essentially much more guy-centric. At best, they're trying to hit both markets I guess. But the Lifetime movies, I think you have a point. Except that from what I've seen of them, the movies really go out of their way to drive home the woman suffering point for like the first hour and 50 min. and then the revenge only really happens in the last 10 min. As opposed to a good Mel Gibson flick, where someone kills his wife in the first 10 min. and he spends the next 4 movies taking revenge fo it.
[User Picture]From: beststephi Date: January 23rd, 2006 - 03:52 am (Link)
I've watched a LOT of Lifetime movies (currently in recovery). Though there are exceptions, I would say they overwhelmingly tend to deal with self-preservation rather than revenge. For example, the abused-woman genre (ala Burning Bed) tends to involve a woman falling in love with a man, who slowly starts his abusive behavior, eventually she decides to get away from him, and as a last resort, kills him. The women also tend to have kids they are protecting from the bad guy. (It's pretty annoying, actually, that writers seem to think that women aren't valuable enough by themselves to justify what they've done.) The woman feels sad, or at worst, relieved after killing him, but never happy or satisfied.
[User Picture]From: chrismaverick Date: January 23rd, 2006 - 04:33 am (Link)
yeah, that's pretty much what I was getting at. I think its more about the peril of the woman than the revenge.

But the question is, how does it make you feel as a viewer. Do you feel sorry for the woman, even though she has saved herself in the end, or do you feel happy that the abusive man is dead even though he's spent the 90% of the movie terrorizing the heroine?
[User Picture]From: beststephi Date: January 23rd, 2006 - 03:32 pm (Link)
But the question is, how does it make you feel as a viewer. Do you feel sorry for the woman, even though she has saved herself in the end, or do you feel happy that the abusive man is dead even though he's spent the 90% of the movie terrorizing the heroine?

Well, I wouldn't call it happiness--more like relief. I guess it's like watching a horror movie, when they finally "kill" Freddie/Michael. Which makes me want to read the study to see if there was an interaction with gender of cheater.
[User Picture]From: chrismaverick Date: January 23rd, 2006 - 05:11 pm (Link)
hmmm... so do you experience actual anxiety before the bad guy is killed? I mean, not just worrying for a fictional character type anxiety... does it actually effect your personal mood?
 

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