marsinthestars and I have confered and we are in.

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total coolness... you realize of course you're going to have to move to Pittsburgh. There's no way in hell I'm moving my show to you.

But hey, comeon up. We could put you up in the attic rooms and you could be our wacky boarders.

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Okay, I'll admit it. It's been on after either Queer Eye or Project Runway in the past and I've seen a total of about an episode and a half of it from catching the beginning over the course of the first season. It's totally NOT about the hair styling or place, it's about the conceited asshold Jonathan who is the owner of the salon. He's incredibly full of himself and rather like car wreck you can't look away from. And then sometimes he's actually a nice boss, so that makes it more "multifaceted". Of course not interesting enough for me to actually watch the show, but that's what I got out of the bits I've seen.

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ok I can grant that maybe the guy is an interesting character. But he's a frickin' hair dresser. How is being an interesting hair dresser more televisable than being an interesting UX Engineer/Writer/Prowrestler/would-be-billionaire-playboy? I mean sure, I get why people might want to watch Ozzy, Anna Nicole, Bonaduce or Bobby Brown. They were already famous, so there's at least a hook. But Jonathan the asshole hairdresser? Why not the exciting life Barry the prickish roofer or Jennifer the bitchy tax accountant?

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If you channel-surf to some of the other lesser cable channels, you'll find shows like that. :(

But yes, you would be a great reality tv character. :)

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Steph made me send a tape to Big Brother a couple years ago, but I guess I didn't get picked.

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A friend and I were talking about how we need to just get a camera and tape everything before and send out the tapes or make it an internet show cause we've had some pretty wacked out conversations that actually make sense and pretty damn funny too. You should go for it!

Actually when I read you said you invented reality shows it got me to thinking. I remember watching a show about the history of reality shows. And they date back further than 1990. I remember they said a show on PBS called American Family that showed a family struggling through a divorce and it was back in 78. The shit looked really interesting. So I took it to Wikipedia. There is an article claiming reality shows go as far back as 1950....which I never thought was possible. But, they state any show that was aired with "unscripted situations" is a reality show. Which I guess is true.

Check it out its a good read and it has a link for more information on American Family - http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Reality_shows

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Reading the thing on American Family....it even had the stereotypical gay character! It is definitely a forfather to reality shows!

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does it have a cunty bitch who uses her sex appeal to get what she wants from the stupider guys?

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Not to my knowledge. But it was coming up on the 80s so there very well might have been. Maybe the mom?

I am trying to see if I can track down some episodes after I get off work later.

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If you do, you totally have to let me know how they are...

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yeah, I actually pretty much consider any of the old PBS documentary series to be reality shows. But most of them really had a hook too. "This is what its like to be an eskimo," or whatever. Even Survivor and Apprentice and the like are essentially glorified game shows. But the Osbornes, Being Bobby Brown, Anna Nicole, Hefner's show, and Blow Out seem to essentially boil down to a show called "Hi, my name is Mav. I do stuff." And if that shows gonna exist, then I need to be on it.

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I'm in.

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so is there some way to get a camera crew to my house or do we have to strand ourselves on an island for 39 days or something?

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I think if we get some demo footage together - a pilot, if you will - we'll have a camera crew in no time.

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hmmm... so now we have to just not be lazy.

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