April 27th, 2006


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02:13 am - 1KWFFH: on hometown hotties on the cyberbathroom wall...

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1KWFFH: on hometown hotties on the cyberbathroom wall... - graffiti.maverick

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[User Picture]From: chrismaverick Date: April 27th, 2006 - 03:47 pm (Link)

Re: Speaking as a girl...

I think the issue is that if it had occured at a job, it would be called sexual harrassment. I'm torn on that. I get that its inappropriate to put such a list up in the lunch room, but am I really expected to not notice if one of my coworkers is hot? Am I expected to not be able to mention it out of the context of work. I certainly hope not, because that's just a world I can't live in.
[User Picture]From: sexyhockihoochi Date: April 27th, 2006 - 03:53 pm (Link)

Re: Speaking as a girl...

You're right...it's possible that it would be sexual harassment. But even then, people usually get fines for this (or go to civil court). They typically aren't sent to prison for years. So why would these parents want to punish the boys criminally?

For all any of us know, some of the girls ON THE LIST could have actually made it up to further their popularity! I've seen that done before.

Expelling students or putting them in juvy hall is not going to solve anything, except make them more likely to become a criminal.
[User Picture]From: chrismaverick Date: April 27th, 2006 - 06:05 pm (Link)

Re: Speaking as a girl...

In this case, I doubt any of the girls made up the list themselves. The boys intereviewed seemed to imply that the list is made every year and has been for a while. It had just never been an issue before.

And it shouldn't be one now.
[User Picture]From: sexyhockihoochi Date: April 27th, 2006 - 08:25 pm (Link)

Re: Speaking as a girl...

Don't doubt that. Girls make up that list and show it off to the guys, while pretending that a guy made it. Why? It's pure high school theory...if one guy says "wow she's so hot!", his friend will go "yeah she is!"...which leads to other guys going "well if they think she's hot, she must be hot."

Girls know how this works. Trust me.
[User Picture]From: chrismaverick Date: April 27th, 2006 - 08:29 pm (Link)

Re: Speaking as a girl...

oh don't get me wrong. I totally believe it's the kind of thing that a bunch of girls might do. I just don't think that's what happened in this particular case.
[User Picture]From: duckmonster Date: April 27th, 2006 - 03:58 pm (Link)

Re: Speaking as a girl...

am I really expected to not notice if one of my coworkers is hot?

No.

Am I expected to not be able to mention it out of the context of work.

Yes. (At least, if there's any chance at all that it might get back to her.) A coworker is a coworker, and you have to show a certain amount of respect to coworkers. That includes not commenting on their relative hotness or notness, while at work or in any place where they [or some other coworker] might have a reasonable chance of hearing you.
[User Picture]From: chrismaverick Date: April 27th, 2006 - 06:18 pm (Link)

Re: Speaking as a girl...

granting that what I know of you, you're admittedly more prudish than the average, and granted that I am obviously far more liberal than average.

But actually, no I don't have to worry about respecting the employee out of work. And I shouldn't have to. The law can't differentiate between my behavior towards one type of person and another, because all people are inherently equal. So if I am allowed to rank the hottest actresses, or singers, or girls on my street, then I have to be allowed to rank my co-workers or co-eds, so long as I'm not doing it at work and disrupting the work environment. The sexual part of this is a red herring. Its really about harrasment. The law can't force me to not be misogynistic anymore than it can force me to not be racist. I can go home and rank my coworkers by boobies, or niggerness or republicanishness and that's by business, so long as I don't let it affect the workplace. The point of sexual harrassment laws is to protect the victem not to control the thoughts of the assailant. That's why the press and speech and their derivitives are protected in the first place.

To look at it another way, I work in very corporate environment. We have a winter holiday party. We just celebrated the spring holiday. Now clearly the reason we get the winter holiday and the associated party is to celebrate the December birth of our lord and savior Jay-Z. Everyone knows that. But I can't hang images devoting my worship to him because that might be offensive to some of the heathens I work with who worship Jesus or Moses or Mohammed or Buddha or whatever. But upon leaving work I have every right to assemble and worhip his Jigganess and every reason to believe that I have the full protection of the law to do so. And those christians and jews and whatnot can worship their lords too, and shouldn't have to be worried about me being offended.
 

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