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[User Picture]From: vixendarkfairy Date: April 28th, 2006 - 03:32 am (Link)


I think the parents involved need to open their eyes. How many high schools DON'T have a list like this in circulation? My high school sure did. The worst ones are the ones that rate the girl on how she was in bed -- AND list the number of guys polled for that figure. Parents NEVER want to find a daughter's name on that kind of list...

I feel the second type of list does far more injury. So does the law. In fact, this second type of list can even be illegal, because it may break laws of libel -- IF someone brags dishonestly. To be "libel," a statement must be written in a public forum, bear the potential for harm (even if just to reputation), and be untrue.

In the list this article is about, it would seem little else was harmed but a few girls' pride, because they scored lower than they'd hoped, or didn't make the list at all. Not a crime, because there is no proving Amy doesn't have a nice ass... And it's a far cry from rape. "Rape" is a seriously harmful crime, and we should not cheapen the power of that word by levelling it with simple name-calling.
[User Picture]From: chrismaverick Date: April 28th, 2006 - 02:17 pm (Link)

Re: Overreaction

yeah, as I've said elsewhere, the cheapening of the word rape is the thing that gets to me more than anything else. It really really really bothers me in fact.

As for the damages, I was talking with beststephi about this as well. All that was hurt was some girls' pride. As far as I can tell, none of the girls on the list have actually complained about anything, and even if they did, you have to give them some leeway. You do have the right to learn in a safe environment, you don't have the right to have a life free of insult and assholes. At the end of the day, all the boys did was write some childish drivel. At some point you just need to lear to deal with such things because they're gonna happen. But at another point, even if you don't like it, that doesn't mean you have the right to stop it.

I know it sounds cold of me. I understand. I understand that in particular women are going to be more sensitive to this type of thing than men. And I feel bad about it, but I really believe that free speech is the foundation of a civilized democracy. Without the ability to speak freely in ways that might be offensive to others, there can be no abolishment of slavery, no women's right to vote, no legalized abortion. Without Playboy Magazine, Howard Stern and Debbie Does Dallas, there can be no Utne Reader, Oprah or Schindlers List. Is anything positive likely to come from a bunch of kids publishing a newsletter of girls they think are hot? Well, probably not, but unless you let them try, then we'll never have stuff like "Natural Cures They Don't Want You to Know About?" Negative art and social commentarty, is just as important as positive. Possibly even more so.
[User Picture]From: vixendarkfairy Date: April 29th, 2006 - 03:40 am (Link)

Re: Overreaction

Yeah, like I said, it was an overreaction. Americans are so lawsuit crazy. It's pathetic. I also think we over-protect our young. It really does not help them learn to cope with trauma for their adult lives. And how many American kids would know what to do if civil war broke out tomorrow? In Viet Nam, the kids picked up guns like everyone else...

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