July 7th, 2006

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[User Picture]From: jameel Date: July 7th, 2006 - 02:40 pm (Link)
Ear piercing is causing unnecessary pain to an being incapable of consent, and I just can't get behind that, any more than I can get behind tattooing infants or binding their feet.

I am squarely in the anti-circumcision camp as far as infants go. It's the removal of a perfectly healthy and functional piece of an infant's body in the name of social inertia and so-called health benefits. I'm not going to call CYS or anything when someone does have their child circumcised, but I do think that it's wrong. One should minimize the pain to benefit ratio for one's children.

Your other examples are fixing things that are broken, and I can get behind that. Pretend that I included "fixing things that are broken" in my previous post.
[User Picture]From: chrismaverick Date: July 7th, 2006 - 05:38 pm (Link)
so when is old enough to consent to an ear piercing? I can see a three year old seeing someone with earrings and then asking. Is that ok? I mean, I can also see a three year old asking for a tattoo, and I'm thinking I'd be against that. But where is the line?

I can't see a three year old asking for a circumcision, but I also think that if you're going to get it done, you're better off getting it done at a few days old where you don't remember the pain as opposed to consenting to it at 18 when.... ow!
[User Picture]From: jameel Date: July 7th, 2006 - 05:46 pm (Link)
As with most things, there is no line where anyone younger is too young. Does that three-year-old understand when you describe things to him? If so, he's probably old enough to make the decision to get his ears pierced. Chances are slim that he understands the concept of "forever", so that's a likely "no" on the tattoos and circumcision. As a matter of fact, I'd likely make a child of mine wait until they're adolescent before getting circumcised, and he'd have to have a reason better than "all the other kids are cut!" or "this girl wants me to get snipped."

Piercings can be removed. Reversing tattoos is expensive and painful. Reversing a circumcision is... extremely uncomfortable.
[User Picture]From: chrismaverick Date: July 7th, 2006 - 07:14 pm (Link)
[User Picture]From: marmal8 Date: July 7th, 2006 - 07:05 pm (Link)
Pain is momentary. Personally I don't relish trying to keep a surgical wound clean when it happens to be in the diaper region (that is, poop central). It's enough work keeping that area clean without having to be careful of the wound.
[User Picture]From: chrismaverick Date: July 7th, 2006 - 07:15 pm (Link)
Eh, its a big enough job cleaning a baby anyway. At the point where you're changing a diaper, I don't think it's notably any harder.
[User Picture]From: marmal8 Date: July 7th, 2006 - 07:20 pm (Link)
It'd require a more gentle touch though. I just don't see the sense in having a big boo-boo so close to the poop. It seems an unnecessary risk of infection, especially when circumcision is totally unnecessary as a health issue.

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