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[User Picture]From: chrismaverick Date: July 7th, 2006 - 06:13 pm (Link)
I think you agree with me... (or I agree with you)

its so hard to tell.

The blue hair vs. feminine suit based on job requirements thing is a good example. I kinda touched on that way back here in 2003. It was never that you didn't care what you looked like. If you did, you wouldn't have bothered to invest in the dye. It was that you were attempting to promote a certain look. You wanted that look to evoke a certain reaction in others. As opposed to what I perceive as people thinking they can somehow get NO REACTION based on their appearance, and I just don't think that's feasible. You haven't changed. Its just that now the reaction you need to evoke is different so you present a different appearance in order to achieve that.
[User Picture]From: jacquez Date: July 7th, 2006 - 07:05 pm (Link)
Yes, I think we basically do agree -- I get really flabbergasted when people say things like "my appearance shouldn't matter" -- because, hello, are you human? Humans are social animals, and what I wear has an effect on others, and it's plain stupidity not to acknowledge that.

Do I think it's *right* that people think I'm dumb because I'm chubby and have enormous tits? Well, no, I don't. I think it's stupid and sexist and sizeist. But I'd be a complete idiot if I didn't acknowledge that it existed.

I - well, I don't get people who don't care much about clothes, but I know plenty of them who don't care, but still manage to dress appropriately. Most of them don't have much of a personal style, but that's not wrong; it's just a personality thing, and me not getting that isn't some kind of moral issue.

But then there are the people who say or act like they don't care about clothes, and cannot manage not to wear ratty shorts to a business casual workplace, and cannot manage to not have gross hair and BO and then are all het up about people judging them on their appearance, and well, look, fucking shower and wear some pants without holes -- people are judging you on the fact that you look like someone with MENTAL PROBLEMS, do you not get that? And they don't, but really, the difference between some people I've seen showing up to work and that crazy homeless dude in Oakland with only one shoe is pretty much...that one shoe. And the muttering.

I think judging someone just on their weight, or their facial features, or the stylishness of their clothing, or the color of their skin or what set of genitals they have or what imaginary being they pray to or what gender(s) they like to sleep with is stupid, but judging someone on their personal hygeine and tidiness is NOT.
[User Picture]From: chrismaverick Date: July 7th, 2006 - 07:59 pm (Link)
that's one of things I'm getting at. In essence it does matter. I don't think its a mark of what's wrong or right. I think its a matter of what is. Depsite my claims of chinese heritage, I'm black. At the end of the day. I know I'm black. To pretend that being black didn't matter would be an incredible diservice to me and would basically make me stupid. Is it "Right" well no, but its something I can't do anything about and don't really want to. Its ok to not want to do anything about having blue hair, or not having appropriate business clothes, but it is SO not the same thing.

In any case, I agree that it is human nature for it to matter, and while I attribute a lot of value to freedom of personal choice (I think it is quite fine to not want to look as attractive as you can), I think its pretty silly to expect people to not react to it.

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