July 7th, 2006


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12:35 am - on appropriate apparel...

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on appropriate apparel... - graffiti.maverick

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[User Picture]From: sundaygray Date: July 8th, 2006 - 02:50 pm (Link)

Re: Another big reply (section 2)

I should point out that, aesthetically, I think wearing a suit actually is an easier choice in some ways because it makes one automatically feel --and look -- pulled together, without much guesswork. But I can say that I would definitely not want to wear a suit to work every day (or any day really, heh). So I can see how people end up going to work looking like the woman in the white pants and denim shirt. Remember how you complain that you couldn't wear jeans to work? Maybe women want to be comfortable too. Tight clothes, even the stretchy ones, aren't really that comfy. They nip in at your waist, feel constricting under the arms or in the shoulders. If you get a shirt that is short enough to show off your whole bum, assuming you'd want to, you constantly have to take care that it doesn't ride up and show off some skin accidentally. A lot of those Vicki's blazers were really tight and lowcut. Notice how they did not put them on a size 12 girl with a D cup. And those tucked-in styles look really cute on Tyra, but on any girl with a belly, including me, they would look.... like I had shoved a small loaf of bread in there. Major fashion faux pas. Seriously, I'm not saying all these things just to refute you. I'm saying them because I'm a woman and I have tried all these different things. I've gone to work in a suit. I've gone to work in the baggy pants and baggy shirt (probably in February or if I was running insanely late). I've tried the cute tight shirts and the tight pants. I've had one tight-shirt wardrobe malfunction in front of the Director of Graduate Studies (she was on the acceptance committee at OSU, where I was at the time planning on applying for the PhD. She was also teaching my class.)

So, you might wonder what my answer is to this dilemma. Because, although I that many of those Vicki's outfits are ridiculous for average to above average-sized women for work (and the others are suits), I also don't want to look dumpy like the woman in the pants. There's a middle ground. Tailored trousers without an ultra-low-rise waist. A long skimming (and slimming) tunic over top of them. These pieces hint at curves but don't shove them in your face. Wear a dress or a pencil skirt with a top that falls to your hips to hide the belly. Show as much arm as is appropriate. Wear jewelry or a belt or some other accessories to show your personality. The wardrobe will change with the situation.

But most of all, mind your own appearance first and don't worry too much about anyone else's.
[User Picture]From: chrismaverick Date: July 8th, 2006 - 04:44 pm (Link)

Re: Another big reply (section 2)

one issue at a time:

1) Yes, comfort is important. I complain about not being allowed to wear jeans, but there is a level that I wouldn't go below. And the difference is, I am aware that by wearing jeans, I'd be making a statement. Simply put, I have no real desire to climb the corporate ladder. Wearing jeans and a t-shirt to work is more my rebelling against the machine. Its me wanting to look like crap because I don't want to fit in where I am. I am more addressing people who don't understand why they should be forced to wear such clothing in order to fit in. People who say that "clothes don't matter." They do.

2) in the previous comment, I linked to several plus size stores with different clothing. I'm actually not recommending wearing a suit every day, btw (though a lot of people I work with do). Its just that that's the easiest thing to point to. The VS link actually had separates too. I used VS because I knew exactly what I was looking for and where it would be and it was 3 in the morning and I just wanted to get the comments done. Its not even the best place to shop for work clothes. For Steph, for instance, I like New York and Company when I am trying to get her stuff to wear to work. It's all about image and personality though, so YMMV.

3) Again, I'm talking about professionalism and femininity, not sexiness. If we were talking about "clothing women should wear to snag a man" that would be a different thing entirely. If we're talking about "clothing women should wear to snag a mav" there is yet another answer. This is why I am using business clothing in examples and not clubwear or lingerie or something (though, surprisingly, it turns out it is a million times easier to find plus size lingerie models online than plus size business models) My point was more calling attention to the difference between going to work looking like Tyra and going to work looking like Urkel. You're actually not in either camp. And really, I don't expect many people are at either extreme.

4) worrying about the world outside of me is what makes this blog so interesting. If you'd rather I could go back to talking smack about tennis with Max, Steph and Geoff, but really, would you find that anywhere near interesting enough to put this much effort in to pretending I am wrong? ;-)
 

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