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[User Picture]From: limpingpigeon Date: September 28th, 2006 - 12:43 am (Link)
I'm a non-smoker (tried it once. Hated it entirely). I generally hate cigarettes with every fiber of my being. I think they smell bad, they make me cough, and I find guys who smoke completely unkissable because they taste like a warm, wet ashtray.

That said, I don't like this ban. If I don't want to be exposed to cigarette smoke, I don't go to places in which I'll be exposed. It's as simple as that. I don't think any of us has a specific, given right to go everywhere and anywhere we please with the assurance that nothing will ever bother/annoy/offend us. If I decide to go into a smoking establishment, and come out coughing and smelling like cigarettes, I'm not a victim. I went in knowing there would be smoke, and chose to deal with it. The only time it might be "forced" on me is if someone is deliberately blowing the smoke in my face. But that has less to do with the person being a smoker, and more to do with them being an asshole.

And it seems people have lost the backbone to, if they don't like the way an establishment runs things, just not support that establishment. I know people who complain frequently about how Wal-Mart is "taking over" everything in this area and , but shop there anyway because they get better prices there than other retailers. I don't think many people really "boycott" anything anymore.

I think your idea for distributing licenses between smoking and non-smoking establishments.

However, I have to admit that the argument for the employees of an establishment is a worthy one. Many people don't have the means to get out of their shitty jobs when they'd like to, so it blurs the line on "choice" a bit. Though, most occupations come with known health and safety hazards. As a cashier, it is not unlikely that I could be shot in a robbery at work. I don't like the fact that I could be shot at work, but I take the risk so I can pay the bills.

Overall, I still think the ban is a stupid idea.
[User Picture]From: limpingpigeon Date: September 28th, 2006 - 12:45 am (Link)
"I think your idea for distributing licenses between smoking and non-smoking establishments."

I'm pretty sure I meant to type "like" instead of "think".
[User Picture]From: chrismaverick Date: September 28th, 2006 - 02:46 am (Link)
that's an excellent point. Every job has risks. I risk carpal tunnel every day. And I don't HAVE to work where I do, and so I can't force them to provide me with an ergonomic keyboard. It would be nice if they did, but I can't force it.
[User Picture]From: jameel Date: September 28th, 2006 - 12:47 pm (Link)

An aside

I got my manager to provide me with a trackball because the mouse was fucking with my joints. Your employer might provide you with an ergonomic keyboard if you ask for it.
[User Picture]From: chrismaverick Date: September 28th, 2006 - 02:48 pm (Link)

Re: An aside

right, but if the manager says "no, I'm not buying that for you" you either buy your own, deal with not having one, or work somewhere else. You don't get to change the law forcing employers to provide trackballs. And you certainly don't get to pass a law banning the mouse.
[User Picture]From: jameel Date: September 28th, 2006 - 02:50 pm (Link)

Re: An aside

That comment was entirely detached from the discussion as a whole, BTW.

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