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11:29 pm - on not watching tv...

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[User Picture]From: chrismaverick Date: November 30th, 2006 - 04:19 pm (Link)
You have to be careful there. I don't think its a failing on either part. I think its a lack of familiarity. People who aren't a fan of any particular type of music like to say "all ______ sounds alike" and I've heard blank replaced with heavy metal, hip hop, bubblegum pop and classical. Its not you can tell Matthews from Mayer because the specific inflections of their voices are dramatically different whereas Britney Spears and Jessica Simpson's are too similar. With few exceptions, the entire human vocal range is a pretty small subsection of the audible spectrum (I know you know this, as a voice major, but I'm recording for posterity). It's more that you are (self-)trained to recognize the nuances betwee Mayer and Matthews or different Motzart pieces and not trained to recognize the nuances between, say Lil John and Dem' Franchise Boys. It's the same as how some people can't tell the difference between Chinese people and Japanese people, but anyone from either of those races will tell you that they don't look alike at all. Or the way some people think all black people look alike. It's just exposure.
[User Picture]From: marsinthestars Date: November 30th, 2006 - 04:42 pm (Link)
That's where I disagree. Yes, people say "____ all sounds alike" when they don't know any of them. But I am saying in a literal sense that most pop music uses the same chords, the same inflections - they're all copycatting one another and because of that they all sound alike.
[User Picture]From: chrismaverick Date: November 30th, 2006 - 05:09 pm (Link)
I understand what you meant. And I disagree. The specific chords are not what makes one group sound like another anymore than the specific instruments. If that were the case, it would be your failing as you would only be able to tell music apart by recognizing huge distinctions. I mean, yes, I'm sure you can tell Ozzy Osborne from Jay-Z. But that's not the case. You can tell different Mozart pieces apart because you're listening for specific things. But can you tell two different orchestras apart who play the same Mozart piece? Or two singers who do the same aria? But they're using the same chords and the same inflections. Different pop groups aren't using the same inflections. They're not copying each other. influenced, sure, but not copying. You're just not experienced enough to tell the subtle differences. They're not even subtle. They just feel that way through non-exposure. A life long hip hop fan with no classical exposure wouldn't be able to tell Motzart from Beethoven for the same reason. But with out a doubt, I can guarantee you that no hip hop fan would ever confuse Biggie Smalls with Tupac Shakur (even though they were always thought of as similar and copying from each other). And no pop fan would ever confuse Britney Spears and Jessica Simpson.

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