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[User Picture]From: chrismaverick Date: April 4th, 2007 - 04:28 am (Link)

Re: My Take

no, that's not what we're saying at all. It's more like the women are exploiting a weakness in the audience. Let me clear something up here, unlike people who claim that strip clubs are exploitive of the dancers, I'm not attempting to make a value judgement in any way. (Hence me saying exploitive was too strong, or rarhter loaded a term). I'm simply using a technical term. In point of fact, I agree with you. A successful strip club isn't "explotive" its just good marketing.

But then again, as I said, I shop at Walmart.
[User Picture]From: lonelocust Date: April 4th, 2007 - 05:57 am (Link)

Re: My Take

I know that's not what you were trying to say, but it's how it came across in light of what you said. Dude said that strip clubs are exploitative of the patrons. Then you said

maybe exploitive is too strong a term. Certainly no one is being held at gun point. The point is, the myth is that the strippers are victims with no other choices at the mercy of the men who frequent the club. That isn't true. They tend to be very much in control of the situation.

Basically, you stating that because the strippers are not victims and are in control of their profession sort of in support of the other person's claim that the clubs are exploiting the patrons is what sounded sort of like that to me.
[User Picture]From: chrismaverick Date: April 4th, 2007 - 06:11 am (Link)

Re: My Take

I think we agree but there's a semantic disconnect. Basically, I am saying that. But I'm not passing judgement on it, (as people are when they say strip clubs are exploitive of the girls). Rather I think that its just the nature of business. Much the same way I think McDonalds is exploitive of fat people.

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