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[User Picture]From: akiramich Date: March 26th, 2008 - 01:13 pm (Link)

Let the Libertarian flag fly!

As a Libertarian I can agrue that you will always have a major problem by having a central government dictate the expectations of education. And it follows through that you have a government that is more inclind to function as a "nanny state" rather than respect the individual rights of ownership. A lot of schools are now taking the personal property of students--in the form of school supplies-and making them pool them into a common group to be "fair" to everyone. Its ridiculous and it shows how we are failing in the system to educate.

When I was ten years old I was given a key to my house, with the understanding that I was being trusted to let myself in and out of the house, to stay by myself [or with some friends] and to not lose the key. It was also implied that I didn't use that key to be disruptive in class. It is the same way with cell phones. A teacher has a right to control the enviorment in the classroom [in the taking of notes, engaging in discourse etc.] and the good teachers do this in a seamless manner. And while I dont have a problem in a classroom setting, it seems like a violation to say to a student that they cannot keep a reasonable item of personal property for their use. Cell Phones are essential-especially in the way you stated, that parents need a means to contact their children in the event of an unforseen circumstance. If you had a child who was asmatic, you certainly wouldnt tell them they couldnt use their inhaler, but you could teach them not to use it in a classroom to distract the class. Same idea with a cell phone...
[User Picture]From: chrismaverick Date: March 27th, 2008 - 05:23 pm (Link)

Re: Let the Libertarian flag fly!

Exactly... to respond to your example. When I was a kid I had asthma medication (a steroid actually). And the school had a rule that I was supposed to go to the nurses office every day to take said medication and the nurse would hold it for me. This was an all time stupid rule. As I was completely capable of taking said medication on my own and it was just a major inconvenience for all involved. This was eventually changed. But I mean think about the rule. The rationale was "kids can't have narcotics at school." However, I needed said narcotic to survive at the time, and going to a daily appointment so someone could watch me swallow a pill and drink a glass of water was ridiculous. The rule was eventually changed (or I went to another school. I forget). Now if I were pushing drugs in the hallway, fine discipline me. But I was just a kid trying to keep breathing.
[User Picture]From: akiramich Date: March 27th, 2008 - 06:57 pm (Link)

Re: Let the Libertarian flag fly!

See that is a scarier scenerio and shows about the abuse of private propert in public [government] schools. You were given a medication that was purchased on direction from a doctor to treat a life condition. However the state had to interject their own agent in the administration of the drug. And while it didnt happen to you, Id worry about the agent of the state. Like what if the state decided that their guidlines for the amount of the drug taken conflicted by what your doctor perscribed. Or what if a higher administrator decided to withold your medication as a discipline means ["We'll make sure Mav doesnt talk out of turn in class. We"ll make sure he can't breathe right"]. Even in a benign situation--say you need your medication but the nurse is busy dealing with another emergency situation [ie little Johnny hacked off his right hand in shop class] it can delay you having your medication in a timley manner which may result in bad consequenses. Remember government regualations have killed more people than actual adverse reactions to medicins.

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